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		<title>By: pirategirl</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-503</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the school where I work, that sign is painted on wood.  It is made of two pieces of wood with the message on either side so that it can stand on its own in the hallway.

Encouraging welcome, isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the school where I work, that sign is painted on wood.  It is made of two pieces of wood with the message on either side so that it can stand on its own in the hallway.</p>
<p>Encouraging welcome, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: lthumann</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-496</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jennifer - I appreciate your comments and I like the way you phrased the statement &quot;make friends with these resources&quot;. I hope more teachers follow your lead as we move forward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer &#8211; I appreciate your comments and I like the way you phrased the statement &#8220;make friends with these resources&#8221;. I hope more teachers follow your lead as we move forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Zimmerman</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-494</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My impression is that many teachers/administrators who want to keep current technology out of school are afraid of certain things happening.  Stories travel about how vindictive students record teachers saying things out of context and post it on Youtube, for example.  Also, we hear about how students who are immersed in texting and communicating through Facebook are losing the ability to communicate interpersonally.  I could list a few more examples, too... but my main point is that we are motivated to restrict things out of fear.  I think some of these concerns are valid; however, I don&#039;t believe that restrictions are the best answer to the issue.

As a language teacher I find some parallels here.  Usually people are afraid to immerse themselves in a culture or language they don&#039;t understand because they feel unease.  But when someone begins to learn a language and is able to begin to interact with a different culture, you can get your point across and there is usually an appreciation of your effort, even if you are a novice.  You&#039;re entering into someone else&#039;s context and trying to frame things in the way they understand it.

It seems to me that if we learn how to use the technologies that are part of the students&#039; everyday life, and help them connect to skills and information by using these, it can only help our cause.  Even if we begin awkwardly, if we are speaking their language in their culture we can begin to translate the essence of what we&#039;re trying to teach in a way they can connect to.  You don&#039;t have to throw your baby out with the bathwater to begin.  Kids would still be expected to demonstrate enough etiquette to turn off their iPods and cell phones when you need to talk to them or have them practice some face-to-face interaction, but how great it would be to make friends with these resources and invite them to class now and then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My impression is that many teachers/administrators who want to keep current technology out of school are afraid of certain things happening.  Stories travel about how vindictive students record teachers saying things out of context and post it on Youtube, for example.  Also, we hear about how students who are immersed in texting and communicating through Facebook are losing the ability to communicate interpersonally.  I could list a few more examples, too&#8230; but my main point is that we are motivated to restrict things out of fear.  I think some of these concerns are valid; however, I don&#8217;t believe that restrictions are the best answer to the issue.</p>
<p>As a language teacher I find some parallels here.  Usually people are afraid to immerse themselves in a culture or language they don&#8217;t understand because they feel unease.  But when someone begins to learn a language and is able to begin to interact with a different culture, you can get your point across and there is usually an appreciation of your effort, even if you are a novice.  You&#8217;re entering into someone else&#8217;s context and trying to frame things in the way they understand it.</p>
<p>It seems to me that if we learn how to use the technologies that are part of the students&#8217; everyday life, and help them connect to skills and information by using these, it can only help our cause.  Even if we begin awkwardly, if we are speaking their language in their culture we can begin to translate the essence of what we&#8217;re trying to teach in a way they can connect to.  You don&#8217;t have to throw your baby out with the bathwater to begin.  Kids would still be expected to demonstrate enough etiquette to turn off their iPods and cell phones when you need to talk to them or have them practice some face-to-face interaction, but how great it would be to make friends with these resources and invite them to class now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony D</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-488</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot understand why people are so afraid to allow the use of technology in the classroom. Almost all kids have access to ipods and cell phones and I feel its time that we allow them to use them in the classroom with restrictions. If they listen to music during lunch so be it, but what not during classroom transitions, study halls and class time. If they already own the technology and spend countless hours using it why not teach them how to use it responsibly. This should be the same for all technology used in the classroom. Should we not teach them web design for fear they will create a facebook or myspace page? NO, the almost all do have one but teaching them responsibility and time and place these tools will make for a much more positive learning environment. Lets face it we are digital society and we need to embrace all technologies in the classroom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot understand why people are so afraid to allow the use of technology in the classroom. Almost all kids have access to ipods and cell phones and I feel its time that we allow them to use them in the classroom with restrictions. If they listen to music during lunch so be it, but what not during classroom transitions, study halls and class time. If they already own the technology and spend countless hours using it why not teach them how to use it responsibly. This should be the same for all technology used in the classroom. Should we not teach them web design for fear they will create a facebook or myspace page? NO, the almost all do have one but teaching them responsibility and time and place these tools will make for a much more positive learning environment. Lets face it we are digital society and we need to embrace all technologies in the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: lthumann</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-485</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris I’m relieved to hear that your school allows exceptions for you and other teachers that use these technologies for educational purposes. I can understand having a need for policies limiting inappropriate use, but – well, you and I are on the same page for the rest of this.

@Beth You are so right that we need to educate admins, teachers and students and by piloting programs such as yours, we have the opportunity to show what works, and what doesn’t. I think this comes back though, to what we may have even talked about at breakfast at Educon that morning - - Why are the folks without backgrounds in education making decisions that affect how we educate our students?

@Natalie I don’t get it either. I think that’s what frustrates me the most. I’m going in circles. I do whatever I can to make materials accessible for students and then the policy makers (and the policies) make it so that I can access the materials.

Thank you all for your comments. I appreciate your contributions to the conversation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris I’m relieved to hear that your school allows exceptions for you and other teachers that use these technologies for educational purposes. I can understand having a need for policies limiting inappropriate use, but – well, you and I are on the same page for the rest of this.</p>
<p>@Beth You are so right that we need to educate admins, teachers and students and by piloting programs such as yours, we have the opportunity to show what works, and what doesn’t. I think this comes back though, to what we may have even talked about at breakfast at Educon that morning &#8211; - Why are the folks without backgrounds in education making decisions that affect how we educate our students?</p>
<p>@Natalie I don’t get it either. I think that’s what frustrates me the most. I’m going in circles. I do whatever I can to make materials accessible for students and then the policy makers (and the policies) make it so that I can access the materials.</p>
<p>Thank you all for your comments. I appreciate your contributions to the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: geek.teacher &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bad, evil, naughty law!</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-484</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Natalie Wojinski</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalie Wojinski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa:
   It is true that electronic devices are banned on my campus and that we have laminated signs. It&#039;s hard to believe that policies such as these exist in 2009 or that the Pennsylvania legislature is considering a statewide ban on electronic devices in schools (oh, how I wish I could sign that petition!). I&#039;ve been thinking a lot about this topic since you posted the photo above and it occurred to me how odd it is that teachers are being told to differentiate curriculum and provide accommodations for student learning needs AND textbook publishers are now putting their books in audio format yet I am technically prevented from sharing this tool with my students to improve their achievement because it would allow students to listen to the text on an mp3 player. I don&#039;t get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa:<br />
   It is true that electronic devices are banned on my campus and that we have laminated signs. It&#8217;s hard to believe that policies such as these exist in 2009 or that the Pennsylvania legislature is considering a statewide ban on electronic devices in schools (oh, how I wish I could sign that petition!). I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about this topic since you posted the photo above and it occurred to me how odd it is that teachers are being told to differentiate curriculum and provide accommodations for student learning needs AND textbook publishers are now putting their books in audio format yet I am technically prevented from sharing this tool with my students to improve their achievement because it would allow students to listen to the text on an mp3 player. I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Knittle</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-482</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have schools in our district with this policy - yet the Ed Tech depart just bought and iPod cart for one of these buildings and are helping teachers find or create media to assist in differentiating curriculum for all our kids. We are piloting a wireless system in a couple of buildings so students and teachers can connect to the internet wherever they are.  We also allow kids to bring their laptops to school.  The policies (no phones and electronics) were in place long before anyone realized there was a educational use for these tools.  There have been some great converations as we educate administrators, teachers and students about the educational and responsible use of these tools.  I understand why they were (and officially are) still banned we have had too many experiences with criminal (drugs) and irresponsible (bullying) use of the tools to keep admin in a protective, defensive mode. But our policies (AUP) and class rules are beginning to change.  In each case we have had to outline educational benefits, classroom/equipment management strategies and responsibilities. But the attitudes will change over time.  I remember when my fellow high schools students and I protested for the right for girls to where pants to school and then a couple of years later to wear jeans. We were told dressing in such a causal manner would be detrimental to my learning. Now I can learn at home in my PJs, I wonder what my old principal would say to that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have schools in our district with this policy &#8211; yet the Ed Tech depart just bought and iPod cart for one of these buildings and are helping teachers find or create media to assist in differentiating curriculum for all our kids. We are piloting a wireless system in a couple of buildings so students and teachers can connect to the internet wherever they are.  We also allow kids to bring their laptops to school.  The policies (no phones and electronics) were in place long before anyone realized there was a educational use for these tools.  There have been some great converations as we educate administrators, teachers and students about the educational and responsible use of these tools.  I understand why they were (and officially are) still banned we have had too many experiences with criminal (drugs) and irresponsible (bullying) use of the tools to keep admin in a protective, defensive mode. But our policies (AUP) and class rules are beginning to change.  In each case we have had to outline educational benefits, classroom/equipment management strategies and responsibilities. But the attitudes will change over time.  I remember when my fellow high schools students and I protested for the right for girls to where pants to school and then a couple of years later to wear jeans. We were told dressing in such a causal manner would be detrimental to my learning. Now I can learn at home in my PJs, I wonder what my old principal would say to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Champion</title>
		<link>http://thumannresources.com/2009/02/16/sign-of-the-times/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Champion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have two issues with this bill.  One: what public harm does this represent?  Or rather, why should a school be a place where audio and video capture does not take place? Here&#039;s just ONE reason why teachers should be allowed to permit students to use mobile capture devices:  http://www.koce.org/filmonthefly/

But what about podcasting? Mobile web access (why have the taxpayers pay for 1:1 when in just a few years every cell phone will have Internet access?).

Two: isn&#039;t this a local/school issue?  This would turn creative teachers and schools into lawbreakers.  My school has a &quot;no cell phones&quot; policy that I am permitted to set aside if I&#039;m using cell phones in an appropriate manner (PollEverywhere, Gcast).  Why not just let schools create their own policies and enforce them?  Are we really going to arrest students who break the law anyway?  Come one, be serious.  When it comes down to it, a school can set policy, consequences, and follow through when appropriate.  This bill amounts to a law that will never be prosecuted except in a case when another law is broken (I recognize that a student could schedule a drug deal via cell phone - but they can do that via a piece of paper too - why not ban paper &amp; pencil just in case?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two issues with this bill.  One: what public harm does this represent?  Or rather, why should a school be a place where audio and video capture does not take place? Here&#8217;s just ONE reason why teachers should be allowed to permit students to use mobile capture devices:  <a href="http://www.koce.org/filmonthefly/" rel="nofollow">http://www.koce.org/filmonthefly/</a></p>
<p>But what about podcasting? Mobile web access (why have the taxpayers pay for 1:1 when in just a few years every cell phone will have Internet access?).</p>
<p>Two: isn&#8217;t this a local/school issue?  This would turn creative teachers and schools into lawbreakers.  My school has a &#8220;no cell phones&#8221; policy that I am permitted to set aside if I&#8217;m using cell phones in an appropriate manner (PollEverywhere, Gcast).  Why not just let schools create their own policies and enforce them?  Are we really going to arrest students who break the law anyway?  Come one, be serious.  When it comes down to it, a school can set policy, consequences, and follow through when appropriate.  This bill amounts to a law that will never be prosecuted except in a case when another law is broken (I recognize that a student could schedule a drug deal via cell phone &#8211; but they can do that via a piece of paper too &#8211; why not ban paper &amp; pencil just in case?)</p>
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		<title>By: Ipod &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sign of the Times?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ipod &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sign of the Times?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Thumann Resources wrote an interesting post today on Sign of the Times?Here&#8217;s a quick excerptI posted last week about the presentation I had to prepare for 150 high school teachers. I had wanted to UStream the hour-long talk, but I was unable to get access to the Internet until about thirty seconds before I began speaking. I did capture the audio using my iPod Classic and a voice recorder and I synced it with the slide show I had created. So, in the end I’ve decided to upload the entire presentation as an enhanced podcast to my Center’s page in iTunes U (make sure to click on [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thumann Resources wrote an interesting post today on Sign of the Times?Here&#8217;s a quick excerptI posted last week about the presentation I had to prepare for 150 high school teachers. I had wanted to UStream the hour-long talk, but I was unable to get access to the Internet until about thirty seconds before I began speaking. I did capture the audio using my iPod Classic and a voice recorder and I synced it with the slide show I had created. So, in the end I’ve decided to upload the entire presentation as an enhanced podcast to my Center’s page in iTunes U (make sure to click on [...]</p>
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