Comments on: Stranger Danger http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/ 21st Century ideas to help facilitate good teaching and learning. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:07:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Anne http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-120 Anne Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:34:23 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-120 I truly think we are born with the "gut" but are not taught to use/listen to it. I think it certainly develops as we develop, but we need to teach our children to listen to it. Yes, I changed the language in which I used to teach my son not to "talk to strangers." When he was little and "caught" me talking to someone, he would say, "Do you know that person (no) - then they are a stranger." Too astute! I will explain to the kids now that I felt comfortable and safe enough to talk to that person. I hope they will learn the same. I truly think we are born with the “gut” but are not taught to use/listen to it. I think it certainly develops as we develop, but we need to teach our children to listen to it. Yes, I changed the language in which I used to teach my son not to “talk to strangers.” When he was little and “caught” me talking to someone, he would say, “Do you know that person (no) - then they are a stranger.” Too astute! I will explain to the kids now that I felt comfortable and safe enough to talk to that person. I hope they will learn the same.

]]> By: lthumann http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-119 lthumann Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:30:08 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-119 @Anne - Are we born with that "gut" or do we develop it over time? I think it's a combination of both and we need to help our children develop a sense of security. I'm glad my daughter said that to me because I've since changed what I say to them to be more middle-of-the-road. @Anne - Are we born with that “gut” or do we develop it over time? I think it’s a combination of both and we need to help our children develop a sense of security. I’m glad my daughter said that to me because I’ve since changed what I say to them to be more middle-of-the-road.

]]> By: Anne http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-118 Anne Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:04:48 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-118 Great post - I am not a SL yet, but am working on it. You asked, "I talk to strangers all the time in my first life and my four-year-old frequently scolds me as she doesn’t understand boundaries and social graces yet. How do we teach our students and children to be polite..." I taught my son "not to talk to strangers" - he is an adult now and in his job (much like mine) we talk to "strangers" every day. I recently learned of teaching our children to not talk to people who cause them to feel discomfort. Teach them to "listen" to their own feelings about others - of course, they are never to go off with anyone, but smiling and saying hello is not harmful at all if they wish to. By instilling fear of "strangers" in our children we may set them up for a life of fear (as my mother did with me - she is a very fear based person). It is essential as well that they learn not to be taken by others for "goods" or to "find a lost puppy", etc. but if we teach them to listen to their 'gut' they will be far better off that being confused over who is a "stranger" and who is not. Great post - I am not a SL yet, but am working on it. You asked, “I talk to strangers all the time in my first life and my four-year-old frequently scolds me as she doesn’t understand boundaries and social graces yet. How do we teach our students and children to be polite…”
I taught my son “not to talk to strangers” - he is an adult now and in his job (much like mine) we talk to “strangers” every day. I recently learned of teaching our children to not talk to people who cause them to feel discomfort. Teach them to “listen” to their own feelings about others - of course, they are never to go off with anyone, but smiling and saying hello is not harmful at all if they wish to. By instilling fear of “strangers” in our children we may set them up for a life of fear (as my mother did with me - she is a very fear based person). It is essential as well that they learn not to be taken by others for “goods” or to “find a lost puppy”, etc. but if we teach them to listen to their ‘gut’ they will be far better off that being confused over who is a “stranger” and who is not.

]]> By: Justin Reeve http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-117 Justin Reeve Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:00:30 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-117 Only problem with that statement, Vampire, is that in this case Second Life is being used for work-related purposes, to educate students and engage them in learning. And of course, you're just automatically assuming that she's using Second Life when the kids aren't at school, outside playing, down for a nap, at their friend's house, in bed for the night, or any other time when such activity doesn't interfere with parent-child time. There's no reason to cast judgment without knowing all the facts. I'd be much more concerned about parents who are addicted to games like World of Warcraft (just an example) and neglect their families because of it. Happens all the time, unfortunately. (Just see the "Widows of Warcraft" newsgroup for an example). Only problem with that statement, Vampire, is that in this case Second Life is being used for work-related purposes, to educate students and engage them in learning. And of course, you’re just automatically assuming that she’s using Second Life when the kids aren’t at school, outside playing, down for a nap, at their friend’s house, in bed for the night, or any other time when such activity doesn’t interfere with parent-child time. There’s no reason to cast judgment without knowing all the facts.

I’d be much more concerned about parents who are addicted to games like World of Warcraft (just an example) and neglect their families because of it. Happens all the time, unfortunately. (Just see the “Widows of Warcraft” newsgroup for an example).

]]> By: PurpleCar http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-116 PurpleCar Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:49:30 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-116 Vampire must not have kids. Vampire must not have kids.

]]> By: lthumann http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-115 lthumann Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:42:23 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-115 Well Vampire - Thank you for carefully taking the time to read my post about how I was using Second Life for work. I appreciate your comment. Come back again and next time please read carefully before you judge me. Well Vampire - Thank you for carefully taking the time to read my post about how I was using Second Life for work. I appreciate your comment. Come back again and next time please read carefully before you judge me.

]]> By: vampire http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-110 vampire Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:08:52 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-110 I think is quite messed up when parents play secondlife, this is just a game. you have a child! there is always things to do cleaning or playing with them in "free time". Your child needs you, you don't need this game. I think is quite messed up when parents play secondlife, this is just a game. you have a child! there is always things to do cleaning or playing with them in “free time”. Your child needs you, you don’t need this game.

]]> By: Darren Draper http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-41 Darren Draper Tue, 06 May 2008 21:53:16 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-41 Well, at first we used a public Meebo chat room. It was nice because folks didn't need a username/pw to enter. It was bad because folks didn't need a username/pw to enter. :) One night a troll entered and as soon as we would kick them out, they would re-enter again with a different handle. Ugh. We finally settled on the Ustream chat. Even though our class participated through the room we embedded on our wiki, we learned that if we were logged into the actual channel page, then administrators could monitor the room. A valuable lesson in the end. Well, at first we used a public Meebo chat room. It was nice because folks didn’t need a username/pw to enter. It was bad because folks didn’t need a username/pw to enter. :) One night a troll entered and as soon as we would kick them out, they would re-enter again with a different handle. Ugh.

We finally settled on the Ustream chat. Even though our class participated through the room we embedded on our wiki, we learned that if we were logged into the actual channel page, then administrators could monitor the room. A valuable lesson in the end.

]]> By: lthumann http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-40 lthumann Tue, 06 May 2008 21:27:01 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-40 Darren - I would love to know what those tricks were.! I look foward to the day I'm ready to do PD in SL. I love what I've seen in ISTE and the DEN - so impressive. It must be difficult to predict what may go wrong with technology that is still so new. Please share when you get the chance. Lisa Darren - I would love to know what those tricks were.!

I look foward to the day I’m ready to do PD in SL. I love what I’ve seen in ISTE and the DEN - so impressive.
It must be difficult to predict what may go wrong with technology that is still so new.

Please share when you get the chance.

Lisa

]]> By: Darren Draper http://thumannresources.com/2008/04/30/stranger-danger/#comment-39 Darren Draper Tue, 06 May 2008 21:05:39 +0000 http://thumannresources.wordpress.com/?p=40#comment-39 Lisa, the fact that people have nothing better to do than to annoy others has constantly amazed me, too! When we did OpenPD last month, there were three different times that trolls came into our chat rooms. It wasn't until we learned a few of the tricks with chat that we were able to get them to leave. Imagine: you're teaching a class with 40 people from all around the world, using chat and one of the primary means of communication between participants. A troll enters the room, annoys everyone, and you're powerless to kick them out. Ugh! Thanks for sharing this example. I guess one benefit to not having real estate in SL is that you never have strangers sitting on your couch! Lisa, the fact that people have nothing better to do than to annoy others has constantly amazed me, too!

When we did OpenPD last month, there were three different times that trolls came into our chat rooms. It wasn’t until we learned a few of the tricks with chat that we were able to get them to leave. Imagine: you’re teaching a class with 40 people from all around the world, using chat and one of the primary means of communication between participants. A troll enters the room, annoys everyone, and you’re powerless to kick them out.

Ugh!

Thanks for sharing this example. I guess one benefit to not having real estate in SL is that you never have strangers sitting on your couch!

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